Comments on: OOP in PHP from a .NET OOP Perspective: The Database Class http://www.search-this.com/2007/02/06/oop-in-php-from-a-net-oop-perspective-the-database-class/ Internet Marketing, Website Promotion and Blogging Advice Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:25:25 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: cpradio http://www.search-this.com/2007/02/06/oop-in-php-from-a-net-oop-perspective-the-database-class/comment-page-1/#comment-28087 cpradio Sun, 25 Nov 2007 22:45:59 +0000 http://www.search-this.com/2007/02/06/oop-in-php-from-a-net-oop-perspective-the-database-class/#comment-28087 Hi billicim, I will try to get to those in the upcoming month. I have been out of town a lot over the last month, which is why I haven't got a chance to write those yet. I will aim for December 12th for the Design class. Hi billicim,

I will try to get to those in the upcoming month. I have been out of town a lot over the last month, which is why I haven’t got a chance to write those yet. I will aim for December 12th for the Design class.

]]> By: bilicim http://www.search-this.com/2007/02/06/oop-in-php-from-a-net-oop-perspective-the-database-class/comment-page-1/#comment-27910 bilicim Sat, 24 Nov 2007 13:03:58 +0000 http://www.search-this.com/2007/02/06/oop-in-php-from-a-net-oop-perspective-the-database-class/#comment-27910 thanx for the post, But i couldn't find your other posts about session and design class that you mentioned in your first article before. So, are you going to post? Because, I really curious about those :) thanx for the post,
But i couldn’t find your other posts about session and design class that you mentioned in your first article before. So, are you going to post? Because, I really curious about those :)

]]> By: cpradio http://www.search-this.com/2007/02/06/oop-in-php-from-a-net-oop-perspective-the-database-class/comment-page-1/#comment-22217 cpradio Tue, 16 Oct 2007 10:48:08 +0000 http://www.search-this.com/2007/02/06/oop-in-php-from-a-net-oop-perspective-the-database-class/#comment-22217 Stephen, thanks for commenting. Static classes are supposed to be fast as they could lock up threads depending on how the language and the runtime are written. Unfortunately, there is not very much knowledge (easy to find knowledge) for how PHP handles static methods and classes. In either case, I would still continuously keep the Database class static, to help ensure each person optimizes their queries to run fast. This will help performance greatly at the possible cost of thread lockouts. Time will tell though and so will testing. However, from the initial testing I have done, I personally cannot see with the way PHP was written, for it to lockout any threads trying to access a static class, unlike .NET which will lockout any threads if the static method is currently "in use". PHP, since it is not a compiled language, it has to compile the scripts at run-time, which in my opinion would mean the run-time execution would be per thread. Now I am sure there can be caching enabled to help stop it from compiling the run-time execution on each request, and that is where it is hazy on if static methods would in fact cause a lockout to another thread if it is "in use". Again, thanks for the comment and I would be very interested in seeing the code for the db abstraction with the composition of a db results class. Stephen, thanks for commenting. Static classes are supposed to be fast as they could lock up threads depending on how the language and the runtime are written.

Unfortunately, there is not very much knowledge (easy to find knowledge) for how PHP handles static methods and classes.

In either case, I would still continuously keep the Database class static, to help ensure each person optimizes their queries to run fast. This will help performance greatly at the possible cost of thread lockouts.

Time will tell though and so will testing. However, from the initial testing I have done, I personally cannot see with the way PHP was written, for it to lockout any threads trying to access a static class, unlike .NET which will lockout any threads if the static method is currently “in use”.

PHP, since it is not a compiled language, it has to compile the scripts at run-time, which in my opinion would mean the run-time execution would be per thread. Now I am sure there can be caching enabled to help stop it from compiling the run-time execution on each request, and that is where it is hazy on if static methods would in fact cause a lockout to another thread if it is “in use”.

Again, thanks for the comment and I would be very interested in seeing the code for the db abstraction with the composition of a db results class.

]]> By: Stephen http://www.search-this.com/2007/02/06/oop-in-php-from-a-net-oop-perspective-the-database-class/comment-page-1/#comment-22175 Stephen Mon, 15 Oct 2007 22:44:02 +0000 http://www.search-this.com/2007/02/06/oop-in-php-from-a-net-oop-perspective-the-database-class/#comment-22175 Matt Interesting take on static classes. My only criticism would be the limitations it lays upon itself by not being a class instantiation i.e object. php5 is great (and looking at the tech notes for php6 that will be greater). I like using static classes, and a lot of them tend to be refactoring of php4 library functions, or small classes to perform a tightly nit group of functions as a helper class to an object. As far as db abstraction I like the pattern method of main db class as singleton (from abstract factory) with composition of a db results class. No one best way of doing it though! Look forward to kiosk. Matt

Interesting take on static classes. My only criticism would be the limitations it lays upon itself by not being a class instantiation i.e object. php5 is great (and looking at the tech notes for php6 that will be greater). I like using static classes, and a lot of them tend to be refactoring of php4 library functions, or small classes to perform a tightly nit group of functions as a helper class to an object. As far as db abstraction I like the pattern method of main db class as singleton (from abstract factory) with composition of a db results class. No one best way of doing it though!
Look forward to kiosk.

]]> By: MrSpooky http://www.search-this.com/2007/02/06/oop-in-php-from-a-net-oop-perspective-the-database-class/comment-page-1/#comment-11969 MrSpooky Wed, 04 Jul 2007 16:41:40 +0000 http://www.search-this.com/2007/02/06/oop-in-php-from-a-net-oop-perspective-the-database-class/#comment-11969 I've actually got an article on Memcached in the works. It will contain specific examples of use with PHP.... I’ve actually got an article on Memcached in the works. It will contain specific examples of use with PHP….

]]> By: cpradio http://www.search-this.com/2007/02/06/oop-in-php-from-a-net-oop-perspective-the-database-class/comment-page-1/#comment-11961 cpradio Wed, 04 Jul 2007 13:23:01 +0000 http://www.search-this.com/2007/02/06/oop-in-php-from-a-net-oop-perspective-the-database-class/#comment-11961 I will try to work on an article about that. Right now, I have two articles in the works, so it will come after those, but I will add it to my list. I will try to work on an article about that. Right now, I have two articles in the works, so it will come after those, but I will add it to my list.

]]> By: Robert http://www.search-this.com/2007/02/06/oop-in-php-from-a-net-oop-perspective-the-database-class/comment-page-1/#comment-11924 Robert Tue, 03 Jul 2007 21:43:34 +0000 http://www.search-this.com/2007/02/06/oop-in-php-from-a-net-oop-perspective-the-database-class/#comment-11924 Just came across these articles today and found them very informative. Thank you for posting them. I started looking around the net a couple weeks ago for a solution to cache queries using PHP Memcache. It surprised me that there is not much information for incorporating Memcache with a database class. Your solution here gives me some ideas on how to go about it, but I'm still relatively new to all this. I would be interested in seeing how you would implement something like Memcache. Anyway, thanks for the info. Just came across these articles today and found them very informative. Thank you for posting them.
I started looking around the net a couple weeks ago for a solution to cache queries using PHP Memcache. It surprised me that there is not much information for incorporating Memcache with a database class.
Your solution here gives me some ideas on how to go about it, but I’m still relatively new to all this. I would be interested in seeing how you would implement something like Memcache.

Anyway, thanks for the info.

]]> By: Peter Mansen http://www.search-this.com/2007/02/06/oop-in-php-from-a-net-oop-perspective-the-database-class/comment-page-1/#comment-5517 Peter Mansen Wed, 16 May 2007 21:33:07 +0000 http://www.search-this.com/2007/02/06/oop-in-php-from-a-net-oop-perspective-the-database-class/#comment-5517 Great Thank's. Great Thank’s.

]]> By: Contrid http://www.search-this.com/2007/02/06/oop-in-php-from-a-net-oop-perspective-the-database-class/comment-page-1/#comment-1788 Contrid Wed, 04 Apr 2007 01:09:29 +0000 http://www.search-this.com/2007/02/06/oop-in-php-from-a-net-oop-perspective-the-database-class/#comment-1788 Thanks for the great post. This is really extremely useful. Thanks for the great post.
This is really extremely useful.

]]> By: cpradio http://www.search-this.com/2007/02/06/oop-in-php-from-a-net-oop-perspective-the-database-class/comment-page-1/#comment-994 cpradio Sun, 18 Mar 2007 20:44:32 +0000 http://www.search-this.com/2007/02/06/oop-in-php-from-a-net-oop-perspective-the-database-class/#comment-994 Sample of use is now provided. Sample of use is now provided.

]]> By: BianchiKid http://www.search-this.com/2007/02/06/oop-in-php-from-a-net-oop-perspective-the-database-class/comment-page-1/#comment-993 BianchiKid Sun, 18 Mar 2007 19:39:07 +0000 http://www.search-this.com/2007/02/06/oop-in-php-from-a-net-oop-perspective-the-database-class/#comment-993 This is a great article but it would be even better if you could include a few lines of code to demonstrate how to instantiate and use the class. This is a great article but it would be even better if you could include a few lines of code to demonstrate how to instantiate and use the class.

]]> By: Golgotha http://www.search-this.com/2007/02/06/oop-in-php-from-a-net-oop-perspective-the-database-class/comment-page-1/#comment-336 Golgotha Wed, 07 Feb 2007 15:12:23 +0000 http://www.search-this.com/2007/02/06/oop-in-php-from-a-net-oop-perspective-the-database-class/#comment-336 Holy crap Matt, that's a long post! I'm going to have to print this one and read it tonight before bed. I suck at PHP so hopefully reading this stuff as I doze off to sleep will help me take it all in. Holy crap Matt, that’s a long post!

I’m going to have to print this one and read it tonight before bed. I suck at PHP so hopefully reading this stuff as I doze off to sleep will help me take it all in.

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