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		<title>By: Paul OB</title>
		<link>http://www.search-this.com/2007/09/19/when-is-a-float-not-a-float/comment-page-1/#comment-121005</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul OB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 13:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah - Ok, I understand now :)

You will just have to reverse the html order instead. 

It&#039;s a nasty bug and not just confined to this layout but to any floated elements where you float right in a floated parent where no width is defined.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah &#8211; Ok, I understand now <img src='http://www.search-this.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>You will just have to reverse the html order instead. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a nasty bug and not just confined to this layout but to any floated elements where you float right in a floated parent where no width is defined.</p>
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		<title>By: Emanuel</title>
		<link>http://www.search-this.com/2007/09/19/when-is-a-float-not-a-float/comment-page-1/#comment-121002</link>
		<dc:creator>Emanuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the info.

Right to left menu - well, there are other languages, from right to left. Hebrew in my case. I know, &#039;Right to Left&#039; and &#039;logical&#039; don&#039;t go together :-) but that what we have to live with...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the info.</p>
<p>Right to left menu &#8211; well, there are other languages, from right to left. Hebrew in my case. I know, &#8216;Right to Left&#8217; and &#8216;logical&#8217; don&#8217;t go together <img src='http://www.search-this.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  but that what we have to live with&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Paul OB</title>
		<link>http://www.search-this.com/2007/09/19/when-is-a-float-not-a-float/comment-page-1/#comment-120998</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul OB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Emanuel,

Unfortunately IE has a major bug when you float right inside a floated container and the float effectively becomes 100% wide and therefore it can&#039;t really be centred.

You need to always float left inside left floated containers unless they both have defined widths. There is no cure for this bug but to avoid it.

I&#039;m not sure why you would want to reverse the order anyway as the original is in a logical order anyway :).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Emanuel,</p>
<p>Unfortunately IE has a major bug when you float right inside a floated container and the float effectively becomes 100% wide and therefore it can&#8217;t really be centred.</p>
<p>You need to always float left inside left floated containers unless they both have defined widths. There is no cure for this bug but to avoid it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure why you would want to reverse the order anyway as the original is in a logical order anyway <img src='http://www.search-this.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
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		<title>By: Emanuel</title>
		<link>http://www.search-this.com/2007/09/19/when-is-a-float-not-a-float/comment-page-1/#comment-120427</link>
		<dc:creator>Emanuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 19:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks. That was helpful and I made it with 4 levels (the link is in the website URL field of this form).
Now, my next challenge is turn it from right to left. Though I almost did it for FF, with IE (I test it on 6 and 8) I get strange results. Even with one level only. When I float the li to the right (in order to present the buttons from right to left), the main ul takes place across the entire width of of the container div. From there it is a mess :-(  
(I&#039;ll be glad if you&#039;ll look at the code, in the same file).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks. That was helpful and I made it with 4 levels (the link is in the website URL field of this form).<br />
Now, my next challenge is turn it from right to left. Though I almost did it for FF, with IE (I test it on 6 and <img src='http://www.search-this.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> I get strange results. Even with one level only. When I float the li to the right (in order to present the buttons from right to left), the main ul takes place across the entire width of of the container div. From there it is a mess <img src='http://www.search-this.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
(I&#8217;ll be glad if you&#8217;ll look at the code, in the same file).</p>
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		<title>By: Paul OB</title>
		<link>http://www.search-this.com/2007/09/19/when-is-a-float-not-a-float/comment-page-1/#comment-120166</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul OB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 16:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>excuse the typo in the above :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>excuse the typo in the above <img src='http://www.search-this.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Paul OB</title>
		<link>http://www.search-this.com/2007/09/19/when-is-a-float-not-a-float/comment-page-1/#comment-120165</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul OB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 16:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

If you are going to have nested uls then you need to take care of the cascade and cancel out any styles that you don&#039;t want on the nested elements.

e.g. if you have this on the parent:
.navwrap ul{
position:relative;
left:-50%;
}

Then for the child you would need to say:

.navwrap ul ul{
left:0;
}

The same would be true for any of the list styles.

.navwrap li{styles.....}
.navwrap lo li{cancel out styles}

etc.

Without seeing your code I can&#039;t really see where you are going wrong :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>If you are going to have nested uls then you need to take care of the cascade and cancel out any styles that you don&#8217;t want on the nested elements.</p>
<p>e.g. if you have this on the parent:<br />
.navwrap ul{<br />
position:relative;<br />
left:-50%;<br />
}</p>
<p>Then for the child you would need to say:</p>
<p>.navwrap ul ul{<br />
left:0;<br />
}</p>
<p>The same would be true for any of the list styles.</p>
<p>.navwrap li{styles&#8230;..}<br />
.navwrap lo li{cancel out styles}</p>
<p>etc.</p>
<p>Without seeing your code I can&#8217;t really see where you are going wrong <img src='http://www.search-this.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Emanuel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emanuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the most simple and clear solution I found. Thanks.
In the example you gave, between the different menus (ul) you add the .clearer class (IE needs that).

If I want to add nested ul within the any li, what should I do to make it working in IE (right now there is a mess once I add a nested ul)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the most simple and clear solution I found. Thanks.<br />
In the example you gave, between the different menus (ul) you add the .clearer class (IE needs that).</p>
<p>If I want to add nested ul within the any li, what should I do to make it working in IE (right now there is a mess once I add a nested ul)?</p>
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		<title>By: Slicing skill list - Wolf&#8217;s Little Store</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slicing skill list - Wolf&#8217;s Little Store</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 10:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Centering without knowing the width of an element: centered widthless floats [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Centering without knowing the width of an element: centered widthless floats [...]</p>
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		<title>By: João Ishiwatari</title>
		<link>http://www.search-this.com/2007/09/19/when-is-a-float-not-a-float/comment-page-1/#comment-77786</link>
		<dc:creator>João Ishiwatari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi guys, this article fix a lot of my problems, but when Im using navwrap li{list-style-image} the FF, Safari works well, IE sux don´t display their images ...

PS: Sorry, but i don´t know english very well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi guys, this article fix a lot of my problems, but when Im using navwrap li{list-style-image} the FF, Safari works well, IE sux don´t display their images &#8230;</p>
<p>PS: Sorry, but i don´t know english very well.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 19:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you very much.  Worked perfectly!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you very much.  Worked perfectly!</p>
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		<title>By: Getoninter.net Web Development</title>
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		<dc:creator>Getoninter.net Web Development</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 21:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very useful tips thanks guys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very useful tips thanks guys.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew 'Web Design' Adams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew 'Web Design' Adams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great tips.

Thank you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great tips.</p>
<p>Thank you</p>
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		<title>By: Fay Webber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fay Webber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 12:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for this Article; worked Beautifully</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for this Article; worked Beautifully</p>
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		<title>By: SEO Manchester Web Design</title>
		<link>http://www.search-this.com/2007/09/19/when-is-a-float-not-a-float/comment-page-1/#comment-49510</link>
		<dc:creator>SEO Manchester Web Design</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 22:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great resource and to the point, there are so man articles out there that do not consider browser compatibility with CSS isues like this, but it looks to me like you have this one covered...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great resource and to the point, there are so man articles out there that do not consider browser compatibility with CSS isues like this, but it looks to me like you have this one covered&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Professional Web Design &#124;  Web Design Romania &#124; Flash Web design</title>
		<link>http://www.search-this.com/2007/09/19/when-is-a-float-not-a-float/comment-page-1/#comment-44161</link>
		<dc:creator>Professional Web Design &#124;  Web Design Romania &#124; Flash Web design</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 18:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for sharing this. I have tested and it works.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing this. I have tested and it works.</p>
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