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		<title>By: Paul OB</title>
		<link>http://www.search-this.com/2009/10/09/css-a-sticky-subject/comment-page-1/#comment-198324</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul OB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 16:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Opera 11 fixes the old redraw issue with the footer but introduces another bug instead and in the sticky footer routine above the main page wrapper must be set to clear:both or it gets dragged upwards in opera11.

Updated example with fix in place:

http://www.pmob.co.uk/temp/sticky-footer-ie8new-no-table.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Opera 11 fixes the old redraw issue with the footer but introduces another bug instead and in the sticky footer routine above the main page wrapper must be set to clear:both or it gets dragged upwards in opera11.</p>
<p>Updated example with fix in place:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pmob.co.uk/temp/sticky-footer-ie8new-no-table.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.pmob.co.uk/temp/sticky-footer-ie8new-no-table.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: StickyFooters &#124; sohosoft</title>
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		<dc:creator>StickyFooters &#124; sohosoft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2011 18:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: I want sticky footer - Ste Goodram</title>
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		<dc:creator>I want sticky footer - Ste Goodram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2011 19:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] O&#8217;Brian suggested the addition of display:table for IE 8, as well his sticky footer article here got a nice suggestion for a fix in Opera which we used here as well. It&#8217;s been tested in over [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] O&#8217;Brian suggested the addition of display:table for IE 8, as well his sticky footer article here got a nice suggestion for a fix in Opera which we used here as well. It&#8217;s been tested in over [...]</p>
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		<title>By: iTechRoom</title>
		<link>http://www.search-this.com/2009/10/09/css-a-sticky-subject/comment-page-1/#comment-172660</link>
		<dc:creator>iTechRoom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 05:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Demo could have been better to show how  it sticks when page scrolls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Demo could have been better to show how  it sticks when page scrolls.</p>
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		<title>By: crusher machine</title>
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		<dc:creator>crusher machine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 03:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I usually avoid using the :after clearing mechanism on sticky footers because it introduces a space at the bottom in Firefox. However using the negative top margin method as shown above the gap doesn’t seem to appear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I usually avoid using the :after clearing mechanism on sticky footers because it introduces a space at the bottom in Firefox. However using the negative top margin method as shown above the gap doesn’t seem to appear.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul OB</title>
		<link>http://www.search-this.com/2009/10/09/css-a-sticky-subject/comment-page-1/#comment-162737</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul OB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 09:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@mack - You shouldn&#039;t use !important as a hack and you should also avoid using it in general use but in cases where it&#039;s called for there is no problem in using it and will not cause any problems in css3.:)

!important should be used sparingly  otherwise it will negate its usefulness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@mack &#8211; You shouldn&#8217;t use !important as a hack and you should also avoid using it in general use but in cases where it&#8217;s called for there is no problem in using it and will not cause any problems in css3.:)</p>
<p>!important should be used sparingly  otherwise it will negate its usefulness.</p>
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		<title>By: mack</title>
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		<dc:creator>mack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 03:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>but in fact, the meta !important is not encourge to use, because it will complicate the css3 standard, and the hacks is also.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but in fact, the meta !important is not encourge to use, because it will complicate the css3 standard, and the hacks is also.</p>
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		<title>By: Sylwester w Górach</title>
		<link>http://www.search-this.com/2009/10/09/css-a-sticky-subject/comment-page-1/#comment-162007</link>
		<dc:creator>Sylwester w Górach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 05:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yea and i think that the most populat is the main version :P

Nobudy makes websites like in example 5 now, so i think that you may delete it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yea and i think that the most populat is the main version <img src='http://www.search-this.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Nobudy makes websites like in example 5 now, so i think that you may delete it.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul OB</title>
		<link>http://www.search-this.com/2009/10/09/css-a-sticky-subject/comment-page-1/#comment-156141</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul OB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comments Ray and yes I think all areas are covered nicely now with Erik&#039;s extra fix:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comments Ray and yes I think all areas are covered nicely now with Erik&#8217;s extra fix:)</p>
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		<title>By: Ray H.</title>
		<link>http://www.search-this.com/2009/10/09/css-a-sticky-subject/comment-page-1/#comment-156054</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;(This also raises another interesting point in that adding overflow:hidden to #outer kills the sticky footer effect in Opera.)

Hi Paul,

I had also noticed that overflow:hidden; on the parent div caused problems in Opera. 

Opera&#039;s issue along with the option of allowing content to protrude outside of the parent without being cut off was the reason I had preferred the :after float clearing method.

Erik&#039;s solution of height:1% does indeed seem to be a solid fix for IE8 which eliminates the need for any Conditional Comments or IE stylesheets. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;(This also raises another interesting point in that adding overflow:hidden to #outer kills the sticky footer effect in Opera.)</p>
<p>Hi Paul,</p>
<p>I had also noticed that overflow:hidden; on the parent div caused problems in Opera. </p>
<p>Opera&#8217;s issue along with the option of allowing content to protrude outside of the parent without being cut off was the reason I had preferred the :after float clearing method.</p>
<p>Erik&#8217;s solution of height:1% does indeed seem to be a solid fix for IE8 which eliminates the need for any Conditional Comments or IE stylesheets. <img src='http://www.search-this.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Erik J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erik J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 11:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for the double post. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for the double post. <img src='http://www.search-this.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Erik J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erik J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 11:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Paul, You already know IE8 does recalculate the #outer min-height if a child to it base its height on percent. 
So in the case a clearer is needed, a :after clearing rule could replace the IE8 table display. 

#outer:after {
	clear:both;
	display:block;
	height:1%;
	content:&quot;&quot;;
}
As the parent height is auto, the 1% height would be none as the content is. Would such rule work reliably for IE8 min-height do you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Paul, You already know IE8 does recalculate the #outer min-height if a child to it base its height on percent.<br />
So in the case a clearer is needed, a :after clearing rule could replace the IE8 table display. </p>
<p>#outer:after {<br />
	clear:both;<br />
	display:block;<br />
	height:1%;<br />
	content:&#8221;";<br />
}<br />
As the parent height is auto, the 1% height would be none as the content is. Would such rule work reliably for IE8 min-height do you think?</p>
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		<title>By: Paul OB</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul OB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 09:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Erik,

Actually that works well for IE8 instead of the display:table so you could use either. 

I usually avoid using the :after clearing mechanism on sticky footers because it introduces a space at the bottom in Firefox. However using the negative top margin method as shown above the gap doesn&#039;t seem to appear. 

This also raises another interesting point in that adding overflow:hidden to #outer kills the sticky footer effect in Opera.

Therefore to clear floats in the sticky footer version I would now advocate using the :after method instead of using overflow.

So perhaps building this :after method in from the start would be more reliable and avoid using the display:table for IE8 also.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Erik,</p>
<p>Actually that works well for IE8 instead of the display:table so you could use either. </p>
<p>I usually avoid using the :after clearing mechanism on sticky footers because it introduces a space at the bottom in Firefox. However using the negative top margin method as shown above the gap doesn&#8217;t seem to appear. </p>
<p>This also raises another interesting point in that adding overflow:hidden to #outer kills the sticky footer effect in Opera.</p>
<p>Therefore to clear floats in the sticky footer version I would now advocate using the :after method instead of using overflow.</p>
<p>So perhaps building this :after method in from the start would be more reliable and avoid using the display:table for IE8 also.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik J</title>
		<link>http://www.search-this.com/2009/10/09/css-a-sticky-subject/comment-page-1/#comment-153486</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 09:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Paul, as you know alredy IE8 does also apply the #outer min-width if a child to it base its height on percent. 
In the case a clearer is needed, an :after rule could replace the IE8 table display. As the parent height is auto, the 1% height would be none. Would such rule work reliably for IE8 do you think?

#outer:after {
	clear:both;
	display:block;
	height:1%;
	content:&quot;&quot;;
}</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Paul, as you know alredy IE8 does also apply the #outer min-width if a child to it base its height on percent.<br />
In the case a clearer is needed, an :after rule could replace the IE8 table display. As the parent height is auto, the 1% height would be none. Would such rule work reliably for IE8 do you think?</p>
<p>#outer:after {<br />
	clear:both;<br />
	display:block;<br />
	height:1%;<br />
	content:&#8221;";<br />
}</p>
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		<title>By: Paul OB</title>
		<link>http://www.search-this.com/2009/10/09/css-a-sticky-subject/comment-page-1/#comment-153386</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul OB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 18:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where did the code go :)

if !IE 7</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where did the code go <img src='http://www.search-this.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>if !IE 7</p>
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